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Same here.  DLNA its ok but i rather use SAMBA.

"Customer Satisfaction Management Center into the new Customer Value Innovation Office "  lol .... How about instead of rebranding the customers Satisfaction department, focus on actually satisfying the customer?

Ads?  No. Stop LG, just no!

If i pay to have a device i do not want ADS on it ok.  

The biggest problem with LG (imho) is the Software update policy.

You are stuck with the OS version that the TV was launched.  Never mind if the hardware is more than capable to handle a new version. LG wont update it.

17 hours ago, Leonardo Sanches said:

It didn't quite correct it.

The worst thing is the programmed OBSOLENCE causing this error to force us to buy the C1

That is actually  way worse than planned Obsolescence.

   You are talking about a decrease / removal of features (this case a problem with Dolby Vision) via a software update...  If it is the case then is a very clear case of FRAUD!

On 3/5/2021 at 10:11 AM, pacslg said:

I would like that WebOS firmware the ability have to reinstall the firmwares in case do to electrical failure's the firmware gets corrupted 

I think i've read on another forum that you can do that using an usb flash drive.... but i cant remember for what version and or model.

9 hours ago, Simon Block said:

It is tempting to think that all the manufacturer needs to do is recompile for a new platform and they could update my slightly older TV. However the reality is that any new software update needs to be quality assurance tested on any and all  platforms it may be deployed on. So even if the same binary would run on the older platform they (LG) will not take the risk of bricking thousands of TV's if anything goes wrong. So there is a significant cost to supporting older platforms  that can't always be justified. No disrespect but hobbyist programmers that can read a spec sheet often overlook this. 

I agree with you in part:

Sure older models i do understand.  I am not expecting that LG compiles a WebOS version for SoC that use ARMv7l ISA and only have 1GiB of RAM (or less)(and all the hardware on the board etc, etc, etc, plus older GPU in the SoC, etc, etc...)

But one year old models? Like early or mid 2020 ones? No!  That is pure BS from LG part. 

Yes it would cost LG a few pennies to pay devs to reach that QA, but it would keep costumers happy. This is blatant disregard and greed (btw LG is not the only one doing this. In fact i dont think LG is the worst one, but still it pisses me off).

On 1/8/2021 at 12:10 PM, td47 said:

@Ishan Kurnal The WebOS 6.0 release is on the new 2021 LG models, but of course that will be designed to work with the new hardware (new internal support chips Video Processing, and for decoding etc.) and therefore optimised to work with those. Comparing the C9 (2018/19) with the CX (2020) models I think the CX's had a new video processor - 'Alpha 9 Gen 3' (O20 chip versus  O18 chip) but it is unknown if an  'Alpha 9 Gen 4' exists (as an O21??) for the 2021 models, as exposing and using some/all of the internal hardware features will all depend on how the firmware is written, to cover lower end through to higher end models with a single firmware image.  

Back-porting WebOS 6.0 into older 2019/2020 models MAY happen over time, but if the hardware differences are significant, it might not be possible to "tweak it to fit" and work OK in the older models.

 From this site:
https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1610082905

"Version 6.0 of webOS will be available on LG's 2021 OLED and LCD TVs. The company did not announce plans to update previous TV models with webOS 6.0. In the past, LG has declined to upgrade webOS in its previous TVs."

Sorry but that is marketing BS.

The SoC in those units is almost identical. The new ones might be a little more powerful (especially the one for 8K models) but there isn't any hardware limitations on the "old" models that would exclude them to receive the update.

Lg doesn't update them because they want to sell new units.

On 10/23/2020 at 1:24 PM, PVN Satyanarayana said:

Hi, I purchased my SMART TV model 43LF6300 in the year 2016 and current Firmware Version 04.06.40. Every one India using their favorite app like Disney Hotstar+, Zee5, Aaha and many more apps but those are not available on my TV which is annoying.. I spent Rs. 54000 to buy LG Smart TV but all the latest apps are not available. Please release the latest Web OS for these models at least Beta version unless the TVs like this will be useless and no one trust LG products. Thanks in advance and hope to receive latest Web OS soon.

It will not be updated. Even more recent models did not receive updates.

16 hours ago, superleccy said:

I have no idea what Pi-Hole is but I'm off to ask my friend Google.  Thank you so much.

It is a DNS sinkhole but its usefull to determine what domains the tv is trying to access.

Better alternative would be using software like WireSharck or if you Router/Gateway having IP monitoring tools.

It might be useful to use a Pi-Hole to determine what type of DNS queries the tv is doing. 

Good luck with your Android TV ...   you have 5 models from Sony this year and 3 from Philips (btw personal experience Philips updates suck hard... i would avoid any "smart" tv line of theirs).

IMO WebOS is not bad... BUT it really does not have 3rd party devs support that is true. But for web browsing, Youtube and even Netflix it does the job really well.

So far (imho)  you are still better of with a compute stick or eve a simple Chromecast .... but it's your money and your decision.

1ST Android TV's are basically dead (afaik)...  2nd WebOS was bought by LG from HP exactly to be their OS so why on earth would they use another OS? 

If you don't like WebOS then just get and Android Stick or an Intel Compute stick and use it for you computing needs on your TV.

Surely someone out there has a way of coding a version of Kodi into a format we can install onto WebOS 2.0...I dont have coding experience but surely it cant be too hard to do, I know LG is never going to offer it in the store but thats fine if we can install it ourselves. Its killing me having restrictions like this applied by LG...

No doubt about it... but there are a lot of complications IMO...

1st the Hardware, and i mean the custom SoC on the TV's, does not have documentation available to the general public... So any coder would be forced to use LG API/SDK to port Kodi.

2nd is the part that its not clear how many system resources are available... WebOS AFAIK is there to provide a computing experience BUT TV functions come 1st... so how often would Kodi be "killed" during operation is a pertinent question (to free system resources, since Kodi can hog a lot of them depending on what type of media you are playing).

And finally, if it can be sideloaded how fast LG would patch that? Rendering the project and all the work useless :/

Oh BTW team Kodi finally published on Play Store

Thks for the info... i'm going to try this.

Wo, relax, i just sayed "shocking" the way of replying with just a simple "no" without any details, and i didn't sayed in any moment that they have an obligation to do that, instead i just shared the answer to what people were exited about and wanted. I didn't payed 760€ on a smart tv just to buy a mini pc apart, and if some people don't know, there is an app named MKV_VOD for WebOS that is similiar to kodi, it has the similiar UI and similiar functions, even the same backroung image, the problem is that it's only available in a specific coutry, i think that the app is compiled using the same code as kodi. You can see tons of videos about MKV_VOD on Youtube.

Well i might have been a little harsh, but your post readed like someone that does not contribute but complains about an Open and Free Software just because it did not does what you want.

Kodi core team focus on the project and does little extra ports, and they probably would never submit a version to LG software shop, like they never did with the Android version. (there have official builds for Android but you have to get them outside the Play store).

That program you are talking about is probably a port of Kodi/xbmc that does not respect the GPL_v2 of Kodi and that is probably why i only found it on a Turkish forum. Also its side loaded for what i could translate... that means that you can download it to a USB drive and use it on you TV (personally i'm going to try it). If you translate the forum were its posted the binary you will see that is not on LG App store but is sideloaded.

But for what i can figure out from the blog where its uploaded the latest builds, this program does not seem to be a rip-off of the Kodi code but an entirely independent project... but then again there is little info about the code (that i could find out).

Also you can get the latest build of it here: http://mkvod.blogspot.pt/

So try it and share with us the experience if you please.

Kodi says that they won't create it, they just syed it directly, it's very shocking, check it out. Here is the official link:

http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=200487

Please give me a like if it was helpful

Its very shocking??? Do you even know what the Kodi project is about? They are not optimizing the program for any device in particular, this WHY the project is Open Source! 

Whant a cheap Kodi able computer with HDMI? get a Raspberry Pi 1 or 2. It works perfectly.

Now instead of whining why don't you use the source code of Kodi and compile a WebOS version yourself? And then submit it to LG to see if they approve it (now their answer will be shocking...)...

The goal is one remote control for the TV, Reciever (on / off, volume) and the Pi, I use the normal LG remote also to fully control XBMC (OpenELEC). Toslink I have not tried yet, everything is connected by HDMI.

It all worked fine until the delay problem arose when I connected the new fast Pi2:(

Yes i have similiar setup... and i can use CEC perfectly with Simplink off... in fact i use the kodi android remote to control my receiver volume.

I don't use the OpenELEC project version of Linux based HTPC OS so i can't really help you there. I use Xbian with Kodi 14.2. 

If this is a problem that happened after you switched to the model 2 Pi then you should query on the Openelec forums.

 

Well I'm not happy with this solution, I have the LG wit a Onkyo receiver and a Raspberry Pi, the sound of the Onkyo and controls only work when simplink is enabled. A switch between the power of the PI is it for now.

With my Samsung plasma al things worked fine. For now I regret buying a TV with WebOS.

 

Are u trying to use ARC or Toslink? I have a LG receiver and even with SimpLink off everything works just fine... But i use a Toslink cable to connect to the receiver and never used ARC.

The problem with your setup might well be just the Pi.... Remove the CEC services from whatever Linux distro you are using and it should work fine. (By removing i mean delete them from the system... Apt-get remove "package_name" or just remove the service from startup configuration)

Thank goodness I found this post, I have been having this delayed sound and issues with slow smart features for the past 5 months! i have just tried switching simplink off and so far so good. I was tearing my hair out and about to demand a replacement. Will turning simplink off affect anything else or is it not needed?

Well SimpLink is the "modified (at least it appears modified)" version of CEC that LG uses for their devices to communicate to each other. I have a home theater from LG plus Blu Ray player and after disabling Simplink, power off/on synchronization stopped working... but controlling volume on the amplifier still work via CEC. 

In theorie disabling SimpLink should disable CEC functions altogether but as i experienced it does not... simple CEC commands like volume control or input change or even pause/play on LG Blu Ray player still work. 

So the only thing you are loosing is LG devices interconnectivity that requires SimpLink... For people like me that have all this things LG the only thing i loss was power on/off sync.

And the TV is now operating as it was supposed to. Fast, responsive and overall very good

I had similar issues with the 47LB650V, Magic Remote & new Sky HD 2TB and Samsung amp but no issues with old Sky HD box and that combination. I finally discovered that the new Sky Box has an HDMI control option that appeared to be to clashing with Simplink, turned this off and now am able to control TV, amp and Sky HD 2Tb box via remote and Simplink with no freezing or slowing down of control.

Yep it appears LG did mess up their CEC code or something with their Simplink...  After disabling it (curious it does not disables CEC...) no more OS slow response.

Hi,

Just registered to share that on my lb670v i was getting the same problem and after disabling CEC or Simplink the tv got back to normal...

I also have a raspberry pi and i noticed that the CEC service on it somehow interferes with the tv CEC... So i disable it.

Hope this helps.