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Pecacheu

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  1. Well that's not entirely the case. I mean sure, LG and the rest of BIG SMART TV seem to think that their customers are idiots, and want you to believe your TV is a precious little baby that can only run approved apps from the store, but at it's heart it's just another Linux PC. In fact the CPU inside is more capable than you think. Even older models are as powerful as a Pi 3 with double the RAM, and remember that credit-card sized thing is capable enough to multitask and run basic desktop apps like Chromium (aka Chrome open-source edition) with fairly snappy performance! (Big step up from the Pi 2, from my experience)

    So theoretically it's possible to install Chromium. I haven't thought about the possibility till now but I am VERY disappointed with the built-in browser that doesn't work with any useful sites due to lack of support for modern JavaScript, so I'd love it if I could install something actually modern. I've asked on their official support forum and LG clearly doesn't give a single sh*t about updating their own. They've acknowledged how out-of-date it is and don't even care.

    Anyhow, I have developed some apps for LG WebOS for fun, and there are ways to run Linux commands via an app. There's also remote access to the (very locked down) Linux shell via developer mode.

    Problem is, someone clever would have to...
    1. Sneak a compiler onto the TV somehow.
    2. Compile Chromium (The hard part, probably a billon different settings to tune just right. The hardest part probably being getting any image on the screen whatsoever, depends on how the GPU is set up and what drivers/software their interface is actually running on top of. I'm no expert on that, I barely understand the standard X server which is what most 'open' versions of Linux use.)
    3. Make an app to access it from the menu.

    It might be possible without root access? I'm not certain. Normally you can compile and install Chromium on Linux without root. But this is hardly 'normally'.

     

    The other thing that I'd really like to see is a Parsec app (it's game streaming, similar to Steam Link). The browser version (of course) doesn't work at all on the TV. Even the login page doesn't function right. The Parsec client is open source and I believe built on Unity.

  2. Porting Google Chrome to another platform isn't really possible, the code is closed-source. I think what you mean is it's open-source counterpart, Chromium... Which is already what the browser uses under the hood, as far as I know. The issue is, it's a super out-of-date version. If the TV can run the old version, there's no reason it can't run the new version. LG needs to update it.

    Flash player is definitely not going to happen though... It's officially dead as of 2020... Even Google Chrome and Firefox will be removing it.

    A better File Explorer actually would be very nice. Storing files on the TV and being able to change those ugly ass default no-signal wallpapers like you can on a Chromecast would be a godsend IMO.

    As for the app selection, it is pretty poor, but most of the essentials are there. VLC Player would be real nice and could definitely be ported to the TV since it is ARM Linux based... Too bad LG doesn't allow app developers direct access to the OS, making such a port impossible! The only way a VLC Player could be ported is if someone finds a way to jailbreak the TV, iPhone-style... And I really hope that happens.

    Btw see my related topic about the browser needing updating here:

     

  3. It is now 2020, and the WebOS browser in LG Smart TVs (which I believe is Chromium-based) is still massively out of date and doesn't work properly with a ton of websites!

    The main problem is actually very simple. The browser doesn't support EMCAScript 2015 or ES6.

    Basically, translated from nerd speak, it doesn't work properly with modern code using new features created since 2015, so any newer websites will break unless they've been written to be compatible with ancient browsers and OSes.

    This should not be the case on a TV made in the current year. It should be running an up-to-date web browser, if not for convenience, then for SECURITY reasons as well!

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  4. On 11/14/2018 at 10:39 AM, Cody k said:

    It's funny that everyone ascribes the inability to change the wallpaper selection to negligence on LG's part, but on OLEDs it serves a very specific purpose of protecting the screen. The pictures aren't randomly chosen by LG, they're intended to provide balanced coverage to all parts of the screen and all of the pixels. There is no way for the OS to vet the pictures people would choose to replace them with. Invariably some yobs would choose a single picture, probably even one with a single very bright spot like the sun or a streetlight, and use that as their only background, creating burn-in on their sets that they would invariable blame on the TV.

    Well, as I said a few days ago:

    On 11/11/2018 at 3:15 PM, Pecacheu said:

    If the issue is that the set may burn in if you put in 5 copies of the same image or something, as some have brought up, then they could simply add a disclaimer. They seem to have no problem doing so under the Screen Saver option, as you can see.

    In addition, we aren't stupid. And LG needs to stop assuming we are. We are all well aware that the Rick and Morty watching geniuses over at LG HQ picked specific photos so that our OLED sets would not burn in. Unfortunately, they neglected to consider the possibility that our corneas might. I think I'm going to start seeing these wallpapers in my nightmares, if someone doesn't find a way to remove them.

  5. @IAN MOUNTAIN Wrong screensaver, that option refers to the fireworks screensaver that comes up from inactivity.

    Just to clarify, this thread is a bit mis-titled. It isn't primarily about the screensaver, though a few users have complained about that in this thread as well, but the majority of the posts (including OP) are referring to what is probably better titled as a 'desktop wallpaper', the ugly, un-customizable images that cycle through on the 'No Input' screen. If LG is going to force us to look at their lame HDR photo gallery (that doesn't even download new ones from the internet like Chromecast or Windows Spotlight does) instead of just showing a blank screen with the text 'No Input' like every other TV, then at the very least they should let us customize the photos!

    If the issue is that the set may burn in if you put in 5 copies of the same image or something, as some have brought up, then they could simply add a disclaimer. They seem to have no problem doing so under the Screen Saver option, as you can see.

    As I said in my last post in April, I tried to use the SDK to get into the TV and change the photos. You need root access to get edit permissions to the relevant directories. Tried a few different techniques to try and get root access, but couldn't quite do it so I gave up. But if anyone knows how to properly root an LG TV I'd love to know.

  6. Made an account to post on this thread too.

    The fact that you can see the photos there in the gallery app but can't delete them or add more is so aggravating! How on earth can I not perform the basic function on my $1000+ TV of customizing the wallpaper? The stock photos just bother me so much. I like to draw my own minimalistic art. I hate the look of this way over-saturated photorealistic garbage.

    Worse yet, I can't even download my screenshots from the TV either, making the screenshot feature entirely useless.

    WTF LG!?

    Anyway, I also noticed the lack of any kind of file browser app, including on the Content Store, so I downloaded the SDK and I'm working on a simple file browser with basic copying/moving, etc. I found the USB drive mount point at /tmp/usb/sda/sda1. Unfortunately, I just can't find those stock photos or screenshots, or actually any .jpg files at all.

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